The Web Responds to Christie's GOP Keynote Speech
Gov. Christie spoke to the American public on the GOP convention's opening night... so what did the internet have to say about it?
- August 29, 2012
Gov. Chris Christie, who is slated to give the keynote address at the Republican National Convention on Tuesday night, speaks at the groundbreaking ceremony for PSE&G's renewable energy solar farm in Hackensack on Tuesday, July 31, 2012.
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Maureen Torres
5:26 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Christie did well at the RNC last night. He spoke from his heart, and has positive feelings that Romney can and will reform this country. Our country is suffering lets move forward together REPUBS and DEMS to a PEACEFUL solution.
QJ201
7:16 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
So the republicans will be peaceful when they have the presidency? Unlike the thuggish behavior they demonstrated under Bush? Unlike the obstructionism they have used as a strategy to make Obama look bad while hurting us?
B@B
8:42 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Yes, you like all that togetherness as long as it consists of "Capitulate To Everything The Republicans Want." Where was your call for togetherness when Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said at the beginning of the Obama presidency that his main priority was to make him a one-term president? Your kumbaya is highly selective.
Robert F. Galgano
9:48 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Christie sure talked a lot about himself and very little about Mittens.
Steve B
10:46 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
@ B@B - Mitch McConnell is the MINORITY leader of the Senate. The Senate is run by the Democrats.
@QJ201 - ObamAA+ and his party has controll of the House of Rep. and had a SUPER-MAJORITY (i.e. - no GOP fillibusters) in the Senate for his first 2 years. Still spent all his time passing Obamacare and adding 3 trillion to the deficit.
EL
9:04 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012
ot a fan of Christie...but NObama!
Must support Romney.
Nucky Thompson
5:38 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Lollypops and unicorns for everyone! Pollyanna, don’t be sucked in to the black hole of hypocrisy that is the repug party. They couldn’t give a crap for you once they steal your vote!
Long Time Resident
7:20 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
And I suppose the Dumbocrats are any better then the Repug Party Nucky Thompson?
You are fooling yourself if you believe that!
joe!
8:34 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Nucky.... you must hang out with Joe! - The democrats are the party of bad ideas and the republicans have been the party of no ideas. Don't you get it.... neither party has focused on the people's work, but prolonging their careers. I think Romney can change that.
Harvey
8:38 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Joe, why do you think Romney can change that? He panders to whoever he thinks will get him elected. He says one thing at one point, then contradicts himself at another. His platform is antediluvian. The last time we had a "good businessman" as president it was...Herbert Hoover. You want to try that again?
WCaldwelldweller
8:59 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Work hard and if you want unicorns and lollipops for everyone you can make that happen! That is the philosophical difference between underachieving liberals who believe that they are stuck in their station in life and make excuses for it and those of us who believe that faith and hard work will get you where you want to be in life. Enjoy it, grab it, and don't be mired down by racial and economic divide that is the Democrat party.
Jennifer
5:42 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
My kuids, husband and I LOVED it! We know how passionate he can be, we appreciated the way in which he spoke! LOVE him!!!! When liberal media and stupidity refer to him as Chris Crisco, poke at his weight etc. I say get a life! Get a real educated thought, stand behind it! Big deal if he's oveweight! Show me proof thhat his weight directly affects his ability to govern! Do wrinkles or gray hair impact how some of us parent?!?!
William Mays
10:37 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
When he has a heart attack because of his weight, that'll affect his ability to govern.
Jennifer
5:43 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
So we're wrong for caring about our children's future and not YOURS?!
Harvey
8:24 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Jennifer, of course not. But if you look at what the Republicans are proposing, the deficit will go through the roof. Remember VP Cheney, who told us during the costly--and unpaid for--Iraq war that "deficits don't matter." I guess they only matter when the Democrats are in the White House.
B@B
8:45 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
What exactly do you think Chris Christie will do to help your children's future? I'm curious, because I've heard nothing from him about that. Last time I looked, he was interested in gutting public education and kicking poor children off of health care.
Jacki
6:36 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Mr. Christie...
My peoperty taxes are going through the roof... Yes you did it !!!
Forclosures all over the state.. Yes you did it !!!
Unemployment rate is highest in the nation.. Yes you did it !!!
Hoffman LaRoche leaving the state... Yes you did it !!!
Thousands added to the unemployed... Yes you did it !!!
Thousands of homes for sale in the state... Yes you did it !!!!
Jersey comeback is a joke... No comeback until this egotistical blowhard is out of office !!!!!!
Mary
7:19 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Chris Christie portrays himself nationally as a "truth teller" when he has less than a casual relationship with the truth. He speaks of NJ comeback....is he kidding. The only entity making money around here are sickening reality shows portraying Jersey people as ignorant clowns. He is just a blowhard looking for profile.
Long Time Resident
7:22 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Jacki.....you can thank BOTH the Dems and Repubs for this mess. Unless of course you like keeping your head in the sand!
Bridget
8:01 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
RIGHT ON JACKI
joe!
8:29 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Jack!...your property taxes are thru the roof due to inept RWD village current and previous City Councils, Mayor and manager. They gut important depts. like Parks, Rec, Buildings, but give fat raises (4%) to overstaffed Police and Fire Departments, and 0% to all other departments and they have no clue how to rein in spending at the Board of Ed (that's where most of your money goes.). Oh, don't forget the fat $22,000 raise for the Village Manager.... thanks to all his layoffs in City hall.
Foreclosures - Hardly Christie's fault... he took office in January of 2010. The real estate crash occurred when?? Right, PRIOR to Christie and that was something put in place by the Democrat controlled congress, Barney Frank and Freddie and Fannie...sub-prime mortgages...lending money for home purchases with 0% down and to people unable to afford the payments. STUPID POLICY.
Hoffman LaRoche has been planning their departure from NJ back in 2008, under Jon Corisine. Do you ever read the newspaper??
Homes for sale inventory is actually low in most areas of NJ
Unemployment... again...READ THE FACTS. Yes, its high, but not the highest. California, Nevada and Rhode Island have us beat. But NJ has Camden, Newark, Elizabeth, Jersey City, and others, that are havens for those that LOVE the public dole... NJ has been a welfare state for YEARS...when Christie was in elementary school.
Jack! you are bitter partisan...stop reading the DNC talking points and think for yourself!!!
Patch Sucks!
12:12 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Whenever Christie speaks, his puerile pseudo-enthusiasm makes him sound like he is running for High School Senior Class president...frightening to think that his boyish, boisterous and boorish charm could put him in the Whitehouse. VERY fightening prospect...game over.
David Nova
11:25 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
say, joe!, looks like you forgot the GOP controlled congress for 12 years (except senate for less than 2 years), and the housing bubble burst in the first half of 2006 [see case-shiller index], before the dems took the majority. since the bubble triggered both the recession and the financial meltdown, your attempt to blame it on barney frank and the dem congress can only be the result of -- dare i say it? -- swallowing too many GOP talking points.
Gerald Barrett
8:33 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Remove your head from your a##.
Melvin Freedenberg
8:06 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Jacki, I am not a Christie supporter but you don't have one of your accusations right, just like Paul Ryan accusing Obama of being responsible for a GM plant closing when the plant closed prior to Obama becoming president. All your accusations refer to decisions and conditions that were present before Christie became governor. In my opinion, we did it to ourselves. It seems that Democrats not only want a free lunch but they want a free dinner too. As a Democrat, I am appalled at the lack of reality in both parties and the dire consequences that will follow if we don't forget our country and put politics first.
Concerned Parent 1
7:33 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Chris Christie for president 2016!
joe!
8:13 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Amen!
Ricky
3:42 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Looks like you feel Romney will lose this election or you would have said Christie in 2020.
David Nova
11:38 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
ricky's right. if romney wins, christie won't run till 2020. mccain might've been able to run in 2004 if his supporters hadn't voted for bush in 2000.
Josephine
8:48 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Amazing comments. Nothing constructive contributed to help solve our problems and make things change. Maybe we should write more letters to offer suggestions they could use at least in part, or not.
joe!
9:13 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Wow....even my comments too?? I thought I was being very constructive and informative....especially regarding the ineptness of our Village elected officials and management. You don't have any thoughts about how overstaffed our police and fire departments are (mind you, Ridgewood is 1 of 5 towns in all of Bergen County with a PAID fire department) and how the Village manager and Council just cower and won't battle the police and fire unions, just capitulate to their demands, give them their 4% raise and yet no other village employee gets a raise...except the Village Manager?? Pay attention Josephine...every thing that is great about Ridgewood is being gutted and destroyed... the Mayor and his a couple of City Council members want to get rid of the villages employees and hire "contractors" to handle the work. No...I don't work for the Village. But yet, the largest parts of the Village's budget go unscathed....police and fire....because Mayor is seeking higher office and won't alienate the police and fire unions.
Crafty Spiker
5:47 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
"Nothing constructive contributed to help solve our problems and make things change." - a perfect description of CC's term so far. Thank you for the words.
joe!
9:05 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Harvey... First, Hoover was an Engineer by education, served as Sec. of Commerce for 2 Presidents and never held political office prior. Al Smith was his opponent. Smith was a Catholic and I believe the first Catholic to win nomination for President by any party. Smith - Catholic - New Yorker... at that time, just about anyone could have run, and beat Al Smith...and Smith had other drawbacks as well.
Secondly, the market crash occurred only 8 months into his administration and the Federal Reserve made some bad decisions after that, which made matters worse. Remember, the Federal Reserve was only operating for about 16 years, and by some accounts, they really didn't quite understand all the causes and effects of their monetary polices, and it took much longer periods of time to see the effects of monetary policy changes, as compared to today.
Jacki
9:33 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Joe... Christie did not cause all the problems in or state. But he cannot go around pretending to be the know all fix all either. He shouts about being the savior of this state. Talk is cheap..
Harvey
9:19 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Joe! I think George W Bush had an MBA from Harvard. So that businessman did us all favors in creating the conditions for the epic collapse of 2008.
E C.
8:25 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
I think everyone should have noticed that Joe has been stating facts, but people like Jacki and Harvey have said nothing but just false accusation ... after told the truth, they then turned to whine about something else. I am no republican , nor modern democrat. The Democrat party which I know of in the old days base on reasoning. But, now, it based on impulse emotions... What really scary is the education system is perpetuating this .. more people came out to be ignorant and just follow the Party. How could you vote for someone, such as Nancy P.... "you must vote for these 2000s pages of new bills, so then you can read it...!" There were a lot of down right stupid sayings... She, alike with a lot of modern day democrats, must think we civilians are a whole bunch of retard to see the falsehood of this.... It is such a big insult. Unfortunately, there are many people still vote for trash politicians like this...
David Nova
11:09 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
it's probably true coolidge had more to do with causing the great depression than hoover, but few would claim hoover didn't make it worse over the next 3+ years, ending with lots of bank failures and incredibly high unemployment.
Jack Mahoffer
11:15 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
HEY KOOLAID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CRASH !!!!!!!!!!!
Patch Sucks!
12:12 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Whenever Christie speaks, his puerile pseudo-enthusiasm makes him sound like he is running for High School Senior Class president...frightening to think that his boyish, boisterous and boorish charm(?) could put him in the White House. VERY frightening prospect...game over.
Mick Mouse
7:33 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Voterocky.org
bbbnto
8:50 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
After watching the RNC, I have come to the conclusion that the Republican's have the wrong candiaites running against Obama. If the Republican's had any guts, they would have nominated Christie and Rice. Christie - Rice would beat Obama. I think that, although he's a smart guy, Romney doesn't have the charisma to beat Obama this time. Now, I hear guys that say "anybody is better than Obama...". Really? Fellow Republican's, stop saying and writing irresponsible and silly statements. "Anybody" is not better than Obama. We need responsible candidates and we need responsible reporting from the so-called 'pundits'.....
Butterfly
9:04 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I do not think that the persona of the candidates would have mattered much in the long run. Its the party and their radical and extreme policies which makes them a minority party from the start.
Who in his right mind would like to associate with that ?
12345678
9:13 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I think the most irresponsible thing one could do is to re-elect Obama. Anybody really is better than Obama but Romney is not just "anybody", he's a very successful businessman and that is what we need right now to fix this mess we're in.
Harvey
9:23 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Successful businessman does not equal successful governor. Jon Corzine was by any measure a very successful businessman; he was not a successful governor.
Robert F. Galgano
9:50 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Condo Rice is pro-choice. The Gee Oh Pee will never nominate someone who doesn't love them some fetus.
FourScore
10:22 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Dr. Rice gave a nice speech, but I had to wonder if she was actually referring to the republican party. She said; “it does not matter where you come from, only where you go”. Really??? The republicans have made such an issue of Obama’s background, his Kenyan father, his childhood in Indonesia, and whether or not he is a ‘real’ American. Rice stated that immigrants should be treated with compassion. I’m not sure that Hispanics would feel that correctly describes Romney’s immigration policy.
Chingones Jefferson
8:55 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
OBAMA!!! 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
roger freiday
9:13 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Here's my take on the Portly ''pol'' Mr. Christie, Sure he gets points for his stand on the corrupt ''education'' business, and the government union mess BUT, in typical G.O.P fashion, ''Greed Over People'' Mr. Christie beat us all up on our HOMESTEAD rebates but oh, no, no MILLIONAIRES TAX ! My elderly relative, living on $12000 a year Social, has HALF of that go for property taxes ! Do you think she misses that $1300 rebate Mr. elitist Gov. ? Don't forget how much better we are with futile WARS,( thank you G W Bush) than simple pleasures like health care. The Republican vision is to concentrate wealth even more so than now ! The NJ comeback is another fantasy, keep repeating it until the electorate believes it ! By the bye, I am (or WAS) a life-long registered Republican. Never again.
jab
9:57 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Be prepared to be screwed no matter who wins...Higher taxes, higher prices...
Unless we take back our country from these corrupt politicians that ave perverted the founding principles of our country.
tliberty
10:44 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
This is the best comment on this board!!!!! jab hit the nail right on the head.
Denobin
3:16 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Agreed! But in order to do so, you must get out and VOTE!
Selene
10:39 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Amen!! But how do we do that?
Carol Jones
10:30 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
With his charisma, Christie probably made a lot of people across the country think, "Wow, what a great guy" (The crowd at the convention cheered wildly, in case you missed it.) BUT - he sugar coated everything about his supposed accomplishments and didn't mention that our unemployment is over 9%, that he used all sorts of chicanery to "balance" the budget, that our public schools in many towns are still a discrace, etc.
Oldtimer
10:48 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Quite frankly, the 2 major candidates for President both leave a lot to be desired. Rather than focusing on them, maybe it's time to send a message by removing the incumbents from both Houses.
I'd rather have a "green" Congressman/Senator who might actually end up doing something, than the incumbent thieves who are there now.
It ain't the President, it's the Congress and Senate. That's the problem.
Liberty
6:02 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Well, we had a "green" senator who became a "green" president and put us in deep red! I think we kill two birds with one acorn and get rid of the "green incumbent" in the White House. Yep...
Selene
10:40 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
YES vote all the incumbents OUT@@@
Rosie
12:03 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
In my opinion, Christie made a political speech for himself the other night. How many times did he mention himself and what he deems he accomplished? Many, many more than he even mentioned Mitt the Twitt. So lots of help from Chrstie to Mitt!!! Yeah!!!! As for what he accomplished in Jersey, at the costof our pensions and ther things, he accomplished nothing!!! I worked for the school system and my pension, since Christie, has remained the same. No raise. So much for working lots of years and counting on a pension in our golden years. As for what President Obama accomplished, he accomplished lots. Quite a bit more than GWB. The only thing he accomplished was to put our young men and women in harms way for a war that he made up. His precious daughters or the rest of his younger family did not go. They stayed in their palaces, safe!!! President Obama was given lot of debt and problems and has done as best he could with not having the majority of congress with him. It has been an uphill battle for the past three and a half years. He is honest, kind, and a wonderful family man. Honest!!!! Not like Mitt the Twitt who will not even show us his taxes. What is he hiding? Cayman, Bahamas, Switzerland??? God forbit if we are anchored with him for the next four years.
Oldtimer
3:59 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
"Not like Mitt the Twitt who will not even show us his taxes."
Feel free to post up your tax returns.... 5 years will be sufficient.
William Mays
4:08 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Rosie isn't running for President. Mitt Romney is. Therefore he should show his tax returns. Hes just afraid that if he shows them he'll lose the already remote chances he has to get elected.
Oldtimer
5:21 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
And if Mitt Romney chooses not to disclose them, that is his right. He has complied with financial disclosure laws as required. THEREFORE, you can kiss his ass.
William Mays
5:30 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
It was Obama's right not to disclose his birth certificate, he did so anyway. Romney can disclose his tax returns. Most presidential candidates do so. If he can't do what most presidential candidates do, he shouldn't be running for President.
Long Time Resident
7:07 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I find it interesting that you are quick to point out to me that judge in Texas struck down their voter id law and you are apparently happy with that. Yet you clearly have a problem with individuals having semi-automatic guns, which I would like to point out has also been through the courts and been upheld. So tell me, are you ready to support the rights of citizens to have those weapons since the court has ruled on that?
FourScore
4:23 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
According to the Daily Record; Christie did not even mention Romney until 16 minute into his 24 minute speech, and then only used his name 7 times. Roughly 30 % of his speech was devoted to his own upbringing. Sounds to me like he was giving an early 2016 campaign speech rather than trying to get Romney elected.
William Mays
4:26 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Yeah, I bet he wants Romney to lose.
Long Time Resident
4:32 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Billly Mays,
I would like to remind you of your comment on another topic
Billy Mays said at ,9:36 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Some people don't own a car and there isn't a DMV in their town, how are they supposed to get there. By the way, you obviously have no clue about anything in the Constitution, since it pretty much guarantees your right to vote after age 18. But its ok for you to flip s*** when someone challenges your "right" to own a machine gun, using language that is unclear.
Ok I wil, reply to your questions & statements one at a time
You said - Some people don't own a car and there isn't a DMV in their town, how are they supposed to get there
My Reply - Bus, Taxi, son or daughter, Neighbor, Train. This is how these people get around day to day why doesn't that work to get to the DMV?
You said - By the way, you obviously have no clue about anything in the Constitution, since it pretty much guarantees your right to vote after age 18
My Reply - Once again I ask you to quote for me from the Constitution where a Citizen is guaranted the right to vote
You Said - But its ok for you to flip s*** when someone challenges your "right" to own a machine gun, using language that is unclear
My Reply - I don't remember saying anything about this issue, why did you feel the need to bring this up. Could it be your trying to side step the issue we are discussing,
Can you give a reasonable reply or don't you have an intellegent reasonale answer?
William Mays
4:42 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Ok, first point. Many of the people who will suffer from the voter id laws are poor, they can't afford an extra bus ticket, taxi fare, have no kids living around them, or can't afford a train. Not to mention the fact that they shouldn't have to do any of that to be able to vote. To your second point, I'll admit it, I was wrong, nothing in the constitution specifically gives you the right to vote. That still doesn't change the fact that its wrong to deny people something that they've been doing for year because of a crime that doesn't happen. Third point, Republicans always bring up the Constitution to back up a right that isn't specifically stated. I brought the Constitution up to do the same, and I was wrong. The right to bear arms was meant for state militias, not private citizens. Republicans take it as an excuse to own any type of gun such as an assault rifle, which the Constitution does not say you can own.
Long Time Resident
6:35 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
If people who will suffer from the voter id laws are poor and they can't afford an extra bus ticket, taxi fare, have no kids living around them, or can't afford a train how do they get to the voting booth?
Thank you for acknwledging you weres wrong, so we can both agree that there is nothing in the constitution that specifically gives you the right to vote.
Where we disagree is you say it is wrong to deny people something that they've been doing for years because of a crime that doesn't happen while I know that voter fraud is a crime that happens every election and it must be stopped.
Regarding your third point, I am an Independent not a Republican. I do however believe the right to bear arms was meant private citizens, such as myself. Do I believe I have a right to own any type of gun such as an assault rifle, No. But I think it is safe to say that Constitution did not address this type of weapon since it did not exist in the day.
William Mays
6:47 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
They can take the bus to the voting booth, because that is an expense that is expected, spending a bunch of time and money they don't have to go to the DMV is something that they cannot do. I don't know how you know that voter fraud happens every election when the facts are that it has happened only ten times since 2000.
William Mays
6:49 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Also they can walk to their voting location.
Liberty
6:55 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Right to Self-Protect, Billy Mays! And Hilary wants to let the UN take that right away from us--I don't think so!
Long Time Resident
7:38 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Mr. Mays,
I find it difficult to believe that someone can take the bus to the voting booth, but they don't have the time and money to go to the DMV. Were you aware that the laws covering voting do require that you provide ID when voting? You stated the facts are that voter fraud has happened only ten times since 2000. Actually the correct number is higher. Since the Attorney General’s Ballot Access and Voting Integrity Initiative was launched in 2002, more than 120 individuals have been charged with election fraud offenses between 2002 nd 2006. Eighty-six people have been convicted of voter fraud in that time frame. That is of the voter fraud which we know about. How much voter fraud goes on unreported no one really knows so until we have voters provide ID the system is clearly subject to ths fraud. Here is the link to my source on voter fraud.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2006/November/06_crt_738.html
scroll to the bottom of the page to read what I quoted.
William Mays
7:59 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
That doesn't specifically state whether it is voter registration fraud or actual fraud at the voting booth. You've probably never been poor. My parents have been poor before, they walked across 5 neighborhoods in Brooklyn because they couldn't afford the Subway fare. Even if it has happened 120 times, how many people live in this country? Oh yeah, like 350 million. Huge impact on the election. That also doesn't specify whether that happened in local, state, or federal elections. Bottom line is that all of this legislation is being put forth by Republican legislatures, who are also making it hard to obtain free id. I'm pretty sure that a Republican rep in Pennsylvania has been quoted as saying that if voter id laws are put into law, Obama will lose the election. Facts are that the Republicans are trying to change the outcome of an election by making laws that will prevent minorities and the elderly from voting. Liberty, "possessions of firearms" doesn't say what kind of firearms.
William Mays
8:06 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Ok, I just went back and checked my facts. There have been ten cases of voter impersonation since 2000. The voter fraud number could have been higher. But thats what these id laws are trying to fight right? Voter impersonation.
Long Time Resident
10:35 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Billy,
Actually I have been poor so I know the challenges it presents. I walked 5 miles to my first job for three months before I could buy a car so my wife and newborn daughter would have the car if they needed it. Not that the car was much to speak of, it was 10 years old and cost me $1,000.00 and can best be described as a beater. We sacrificed much in our early years to get to where we are today.
The fact that it happens at all is the point that your missing. And no one really knows how much voter fraud goes on. Put this into terms you should understand lets say you have 350 thousand dollars and someone only steals $1,200.00 from you you mean to tell me that wouldn't matter to you. Of course it would, it's not the amount it's the principal.
I agree with you that this legislation is being put forth by Republican legislatures however you are wrong that they are also making it hard to obtain free id. That is just a Democrat talking point. It may well be that without illegal citizens voting Obama could lose the election. If that should happen then that is unfortunate but appropiate.
Yes I do agree, "possessions of firearms" doesn't say what kind of firearms. I think we could agree that the founding fathers could not have imagined the types of weapons we have today. Because of this we now must determine what is appropate for today. Not an easy task. Automatic weapons are a bit out of reason in my humble opinion
William Mays
10:42 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
That judge in Texas that struck down their voter id law must be a huge liberal then. Since he said that it would be unfair to poor citizens because a third of the counties in Texas don't have DPS offices where they could obtain voter id, and it would cost $22 for them to get a copy of their birth certificate. Same goes for states like PA.
James Bombace
8:29 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Billy,
You are 20 times more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than someone with an assualt semi-automatic rifle. Clearly even you can see that by the information Long Time Resident has provided. Looks to me like your arguement against guns has been blown away......pun intended.
Facts are a horrible thing when they aren't on your side!
cecile marie
4:58 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Chris Christie spoke well - about himself and not about Mitt. The role of the keynote speaker is to enhance the image of the nominee and get people firmly behind him.
Chris Christie showed disrespect for Ann Romney with his statement it is better to be respected than loved, just following Ann's speech about love.
So, he may have gained followers for his run in 2016 after Romney fails (can't any of the Republicans help Mitt?? instead of themselves??), but he failed in his role as keynote speaker.
William Mays
5:04 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
No one can help Mitt. Only reason Ryan is on the ticket is to start prepping him for 2016.
Long Time Resident
8:27 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Billy,
Actually I have been poor so I know the challenges it presents. I walked 5 miles to my first job for three months before I could buy a car so my wife and newborn daughter would have the car if they needed it. Not that the car was much to speak of, it was 10 years old and cost me $1,000.00 and can best be described as a beater. We sacrificed much in our early years to get to where we are today.
The fact that it happens at all is the point that your missing. And no one really knows how much voter fraud goes on. Put this into terms you should understand lets say you have 350 thousand dollars and someone only steals $1,200.00 from you you mean to tell me that wouldn't matter to you. Of course it would, it's not the amount it's the principal.
I agree with you that this legislation is being put forth by Republican legislatures however you are wrong that they are also making it hard to obtain free id. That is just a Democrat talking point. It may well be that without illegal citizens voting Obama could lose the election. If that should happen then that is unfortunate but appropiate.
Yes I do agree, "possessions of firearms" doesn't say what kind of firearms. I think we could agree that the founding fathers could not have imagined the types of weapons we have today. Because of this we now must determine what is appropate for today. Not an easy task. Automatic weapons are a bit out of reason in my humble opinion.
William Mays
8:34 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
That judge in Texas that struck down their voter id law must be a huge liberal then. Since he said that it would be unfair to poor citizens because a third of the counties in Texas don't have DPS offices where they could obtain voter id, and it would cost $22 for them to get a copy of their birth certificate. Same goes for states like PA.
Long Time Resident
7:15 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I find it interesting that you are quick to point out to me that judge in Texas struck down their voter id law and you are apparently happy with that. Yet you clearly have a problem with individuals having semi-automatic guns, which I would like to point out has also been through the courts and been upheld. So tell me, are you ready to support the rights of citizens to have those weapons since the court has ruled on that?
William Mays
7:23 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
No, I'm not willing to support the "rights" of those citizens, because their rights to own a gun often take away other people's right to live.
Curt Carnes
8:38 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Billy -- My right or anyone else's right to own a gun has not taken any one's life. In fact, it has probably saved many life. But, if you seriously think guns kill people, then you must think too, my kyebaord just misspell that word!
Long Time Resident
10:00 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
So let me see if I undeerstand this correctly. You embrace a courts decision as right and just when you agree with that decision, but you object to the U. S. Supreme courts decision on the rights of citizens to own guns. How do you defend that? Isn't that a bit hypricital?
It's not a question of your supporti the "rights" of those citizens, the courts have decided their rights to own a gun. And your belief that legal gun owners often take away other people's right to live may be true but far many more guns that are not legal are involved in killing than legal guns. And if you would like I can site for you many situations where an armed citizen saved a persons life including a police officer.
William Mays
10:09 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I was not aware that semi-automatic weapons were part of a case that went to the Supreme Court, a lower court's ruling, yes I can dispute that. Curt, there is no need for someone to own an assault rifle. I can see why someone would want a pistol to defend themselves with, to keep at home, and thats fine with me. It is dangerous and unreasonable to allow people to buy huge clips of ammo and rifles that fire a huge amount of shots per minute. If people weren't allowed to obtain these types of guns, incidents like the one in Aurora or Virginia Tech wouldn't have happened. Guns are an accomplice to crimes.
Long Time Resident
10:50 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Mr. Mays,
I find it very telling that you would decide on your own what court rulings are justifiable and right and others are not. This country was founded on the rule of law, not opinion. I sincerely hope you are not an elected official since you feel that you know better than the people who are charged with making legal decisions from the courts that are imposed on all of us. I accept and support the Judges ruling that struck down the voter ID laws, even though I disagree with that decision.
It is clear to me that you think you know better than everyone else, which I doubt is the case. You do not want to own a weapon. That is fine, that is your right, but you also want to deny everyone else the right, granted by the constitution, to own weapons, which is clearly wrong.
I would argue that if more people were allowed to obtain handgun carry permits incidents like the one in Aurora or Virginia Tech, or even the Fort Hood shooting may well have been avoided or minimized.
William Mays
11:19 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Yes, because people shooting at each other in crowded theater full of smoke and people running around is a great idea, just as great an idea as people shooting at each other in a classroom full of people running around and panicking.
Curt Carnes
11:27 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Well then Mr. Mays, I trust you will stand with me to take all the now legal forms of alcohol out of society too. Let’s face facts. No one needs a 30 pack, or a fifth of whisky. But those large qualities were clearly and documented to be responsible for 42 drunken driving deaths in America just today. There will be another 42 tomorrow and 42 after that and so on and so forth.
Believe me. I fear a drunk driver a heck of a lot more then someone with an auto, or semi-automatic weapon.
Also, and I’m sorry to be so blunt. But if a person is intent on killing others, that person will find a way, with or without a gun. I believe if you search history, not too long ago, you’ll find over 900 people were killed in one afternoon by a grape flavored drink, mixed with cyanide, and Valium!
BTW that 900 stands as the largest mass murder in history!
William Mays
11:31 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
You can't really kill someone else with alcohol, now can you? Not a large group of people at least.
Long Time Resident
7:24 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Mr. Mays,
If your concern is about Americans being killed then you should be very concerned about cars and trucks. More Americans, between 30,000 and 40,000, are killed annually by car and truck accidents then are killed with guns. By contrast all guns were responsible for 8,734 deaths in 2010. This information is from the FBI - see link below.....
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls
Knives were responsible for 1,700 deaths in 2010. Handguns were responsible for 5,973 deaths in 2010 while rifles, including semi-automatic assualt rifles, were only responsible for 357 deaths in 2010. So your arguement about semi-assualt rifles is a bit weak. 745 people were killed by other people with their hands, fists & feet in 2010 more than double those killed by assualt rifles. I think you may need to educate yourself a bit more about the facts rather than just accept others talking points and following blindly what someone else says. I hope this information helps you understand the facts about giuns better.
James Bombace
8:31 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Billy,
You are 20 times more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than someone with an assualt semi-automatic rifle. Clearly even you can see that by the information Long Time Resident has provided. Looks to me like your arguement against guns has been blown away......pun intended.
Facts are a horrible thing when they aren't on your side!
Henry
4:58 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Condoleeza Rice was wonderful. If you missed her oration its one of the best ever given at a political convention. She's inspiring!
William Mays
5:01 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Too bad the Republicans don't believe in half the stuff she talked about.
B@B
5:50 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
You know what was even more wonderful? When she sat in front of the 9/11 Commission and when asked about the now-infamous August 6 Presidential Daily Briefing titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US", she breezily referred to it as a "historical document." And it was really swell when she 100% supported a war based on lies. That's SO inspiring..... /snark
Mary
5:02 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
If you listened to his speech it would be clear that he is setting himself up for a 2016 run. He will be out in the cold if Romney wins the election because he supported Romney early and vigorously. If Romney gets 8 years-Christie will be a memory-he is not charismatic or smart enough to have staying power. This guy must be secretly hoping for an Obama win so his White House aspiraitons don't die in 2012.
William Mays
5:05 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Don't underestimate Christie. He is smarter than most of the Republicans out there. He still hasn't bowed down to that Tea Party bs.
David Comora
5:21 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Hard to listen to Conde Rice talk about policing the world and then talk about the perils of running up the national debt. Maybe my memory isn't short enough! Would have like to see her photo visiting with her friend Colonel Gaddafi among the other world leader photos that were displayed. Amazed Christie waited 17 minutes before mentioning Romney and Ryan. Amazed he contradicted Anne Romney on the "Love" theme. As far as I'm concerned, Ryan is the Star so far... he may have had a lot of factual errors during his speech, but he demonstrated the most charisma of any of the 4 candidates that I've seen (obama, biden, romney, ryan). Lets see what tonight brings...
Crafty Spiker
6:09 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Yeah, "charisma" is what I look for in a world leader.
Henry
5:40 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
According to Billy Mays, Obama is the ticket if you want another four years of endless manipulation of facts that surmount to lies - just like Corzine. Let's keep him and his pathetic administration from doing any more harm.
William Mays
5:43 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
How have I in anyway said that?
Ridgewood Dad
9:27 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Well let me just throw in my 2 cents here! Why is exactly that we are listening to some gelatinous blob of a man, who sits in his office all day eating fried mayonnaise balls. He likes balls for gods sake. Help us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WCaldwelldweller
8:45 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Have another drink. Hope you aren't teaching your kids this kind of rhetoric or grammar. If looks are everything I guess you will be voting for Romney, right?
Frank Santagata
12:01 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
At my age it takes a whole lot of misinformation and downright lies to get my dander up; however in reading some of the comments in this blog I feel the need to address the issues with some truths.
No one in this country is denied the right to vote. In the inner cities such as New York and Philadelphia and in the suburban cities of Newark, Paterson, and Camden and so on, voter registration is no more than a few blocks from where most people live. You need to have the desire to vote and make the imitative to get to one of the places without being bribed or lead to the registration area. Voter fraud is an issue that hurts the election results and happens more frequently than some bloggers here have quoted.
The second amendment was designed to protect the individual from our own government and any invading or hostile jester towards our great country. It guarantees the right to bear and carry arms to this end. There are NO further comments needed, and all this anti gun propaganda is unbelievable. Guns never will on their own harm a single person, what harms people is people!!!
William Mays
12:22 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Since you seem so sure that voter fraud happens a lot, why don't you produce the money that all those elderly minorities will have to pay up to get their birth certificates so they can get an ID. By the way, they need to get the ID at the DMV, not at voter registration places. Guns are an accomplice to crimes, in our law system, accomplices are jailed too.
Nucky Thompson
8:50 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Frank, stick to writing about fishing and hunting, you’re pretty good at that. This is definitely not your forte!
Frank Santagata
12:01 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
As for the birth certificate issue, my personal belief is that it should have been produced and authenticated by and independent source to end the controversy.
Obama and Holden should be held in contempt, because of the “Fast and Furious” Issue. Mexico was flooded with Guns (sold) by our government into Mexico in an attempt to show that guns were involved in killings in Mexico. The gun dealers who sold these guns DID NOT WANT TO DO SO!!! They were told by our government to sell the guns. These illegal sales resulted in the Killing of one of OUR OWN AGENTS with these guns. Obama and Holden have refused to cooperate in the investigation, resulting in contempt of congress charge being levied on Holden by congress. This alone should be a ground for impeachment of Obama, we impeached Nixon and he didn’t kill anyone.
I will gladly respond to any intelligent comments on these issues!!!!
This post is not designed nor intended to start more arguments and issues, I just want people to look at all sides before making harmful, hurtful statements.
And I also use my real name in the post that I make, because I don’t need the anonymity of a pseudo name. I believe in what I say and am fair in my views!!!
Frank
William Mays
12:25 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
If you want Obama to be impeached for the death of that agent, don't you think Bush should be put in jail for all those young men and women that died as a result of the two wars that he started? One of which he started by LYING to Congress?
FourScore
8:57 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
“As for the birth certificate issue, my personal belief is that it should have been produced and authenticated by and independent source to end the controversy.”
How is the Hawaii Dept of Health NOT an independent source??? They verified Obama’s birth certificate long before he was even elected. If you were paying attention, you would have realized that the controversy was ended four years ago.
ninja
2:29 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
You want people to respond intelligently yet you lead by perpetuating more nonsensical hogwash about the birth certificate? Interesting...in the case "Fast and Furious," the Justice Department actually declared those gun sales completely legal, thus the reason no charges have been filed. Obama did absolutely nothing illegal or impeachable, and neither did Holder. This was actually a Bush program that was planned, authorized and implemented under Bush, continued under Obama. And let's get real here, the Contempt of Congress charge was 100% politically motivated to make Obama look bad. If you can't see that then you are just a Republican calling the kettle black. If the republican controlled congress had anything remotely close to a tidbit that could be used to impeach Obama, you don't think they would have done it in a heartbeat? Hell, they tried to impeach Clinton because he lied about a completely legal, private act.
You are entitled to your opinion with regards to policy and political affiliation, but don't troll around on issues like the birth certificate and fast and furious to make it sound like those are real issues facing the country. Energy, environment, healthcare, economic growth, immigration, education: all major issues that we should be debating and discussing. This Bain Capital/Birth Certificate/F&F crap is a distraction and a waste of time. Intelligent respones, HAH! What a joke, I'm glad we all know who you are now...knucklehead.
Dan Grant
8:40 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Back to the Keynote Speaker. I ran against Christie in his first elected office. He was a part of an insurgent team in the Republican Party in Morris County and he Jack O'Keefe and Michael Dedio had beaten the established Republicans in a primary. Within a month of taking office Christie had declared himself for Assembly saying he had accomplished all he wanted to as a Freeholder. The only thing that lasted longer than his term in office was a defamation suit against him because of his shoot from the lip style and after one term he was bounced out. Having failed at that he took another route and became a bundler for Bush and a Bush Pioneer raising a lot of money. That earned him the position of US Attorney which put him back it the limelight. He is like a heat seeking missle in regard to his own ambition and an odd choice for Keynote Speaker. NJ has a 9.8 percent unemployment rate, one of the worst in the nation. His policies have largely been failure. Property taxes continue to rise as he inflicts more pain on municipalities of NJ. It is absdolutely clear from his speech that his interests lie in a Romney loss and his shot at the Presidency.
Liberty
8:55 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Interesting comment, Dan. I was not aware of that history, so will research it. When Christie gave his "key bloat" speech, I wondered if he'd forgotten Mitt Romney was there! The TV showed the Romneys' faces during the speech--smiles over gritted teeth! Thanks for the insight.
bbbnto
10:31 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Clint Eastwood was funny, but was it appropriate? The lead up to the Eastwood was all family and morals, and such, and then he gets up there and then puts on a comedy act with impled vulgarity. Now yes, it was funny, but not really in the mold of the evenings events. And, I forget which channel I was watching, either CNN or Fox, but someone stated BEFORE Clint Eastwood's speech that "...you can be sure that Clint Eastwood's remarks were vetted...". Now if this is true, it is really a surprise the Mitt Romney approved the content of his speech.
Clint Eastwood aside, I was very pleased with what I heard about Mitt Romney, because I didn't know about all the things he had done, and he's an admirable guy.
jp1
10:37 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Clint, good director decent actor but should have stayed home in this case.
Concerned Parent 1
11:42 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Ricky you are right...I meant to say Mitt Romney 2012...Chris Christie 2020!!!
Jon
2:59 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
A serious question to any Life Insurance Actuaries out there: What are the statistical odds that Chris Christie will still be around to run for office in 2016 or 2020?
Nucky Thompson
4:12 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
You know what was really in that empty chair next to Eastwood last night? It was his career! I only thought he “played” angry old men in the movies but now it’s clear that’s what he is in real life. It’s sad when you’re washed up and aren’t with it enough to realize it. Clint, it’s back to Carmel you. Maybe some repug job creator can use you in Customer Service.
Dan Grant
6:24 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Many actors are lousey speakers. Who knows how many takes Eastwood had to do to get that Iconic line "Make My Day." line. His body of work both as an actor and a director is great but just like Mel Gibson he should not be allowed out in public. I wonder when the last time Ann Romney heard someone make reference to doing that kind of impossible act to oneself. There was so much "Queen for a day" in the rest of the speeches I was waiting for George Carlin to be brought back from the grave and talk about his one legged single mom, hopping 38 miles one way to go to her job as a hot tar roofer so that he and his 19 brothers and 1 sister could have a better life in America.
Jon
6:09 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Romney in a landslide
Kevin Nedd
12:56 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Two words for Jon:
Electoral College
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
Steve B
1:09 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@ KMN - Romney leads in enough states to have 267 Electoral votes as of last week (pre-Convention bump). That includes leads in Florida, NC, Wisc, Iowa and Michigan. All Mitt needs now is to win NH or Colorado for the 270+ Electoral votes. That even if Romney does not win Ohio or Virginia.
Kevin Nedd
3:04 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Steve B,
Keep dreaming. RCP state poll averages show the President leading in MI, FL, WI, and IA. Mitt's lead in NC is only 0.7%.
Mitt's going down like a Lincoln Tunnel hooker during Fleet Week!
The Stig
3:18 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
The "No Tossups" map is a joke because there are so many states in play (and the pool keeps getting bigger as more states leave the "Lean Obama" category), and the longer that condition exists the worse it looks for any incumbent.
It's time for the Obamanites to start girding themselves for a big let-down in November. Or as Nedd likes to say, STFU!!!
Nucky Thompson
6:25 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I don't like the guy but I hope he didn't get hurt. Was his wife with him? How come Faux News didn't report the disaster? I guess they were too busy making stuff up!
Steve B
8:30 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Oooh. "Faux News". That's clever & original.
{end of sarcasm}
WCaldwelldweller
8:50 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Making stuff up? you don't even have the ingenuity to make up your own screen name!
Nucky Thompson
9:02 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Wow, that was creative! You must have been subject to oxygen deprivation at birth! Hope your parent sued the doctor!
WCaldwelldweller
3:10 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Ms. Thomson, nice retort.
Liberty
9:23 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
We have a super-important presidential election in just a little over 2 mos., and you're criticizing a guy's screen name?!
BTW, Billy M.--I wholly support the 2nd Amendment. I went through a rigorous protocol to buy my gun. Law enforcement knows I have my gun. I have a permit and training and my gun is legal. If you or anyone else breaks into my house or attacks me or mine, I will shoot you. The tens of thousands of legal gun owners that make up the " citizen" army of the USA is a great deterrent to our being invaded by foreign enemies. The world knows we have guns and they fear that. Most criminals don't have legal guns. If you repeal the 2nd Amend., you will weaken the country. And there will still be thousands of illegal guns you have no way of tracking.
William Mays
10:13 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
OMG, THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!!! Seriously, no one is after you, calm down. Psychos like the ones at Aurora and Virginia Tech were able to legally obtain guns. The guy at Virginia Tech had a history of mental issues, and yet he bought a coupe of pistols that he used to take 30 lives. If they repealed the 2nd amendment, the ATF and Police could actually focus on finding illegal guns instead of sorting through documents trying to figure out whether someone owns a gun. No gun is made to be sold illegally. The market for legal guns is the reason why we end up having illegal guns.
B@B
7:32 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Do you have children? Any gun that is "at the ready" to be used if someone breaks into your house is by definition not safely stored. You are far more likely to end up shooting a member of your family than you are an intruder. Life isn't like the movies, where regular people are crackerjack shots in a crisis. Look at the recent shooting at the Empire State Building. 9 people were injured by bullets and fragments shot by police guns -- and they are TRAINED in crisis management in a way you are not.
Long Time Resident
8:27 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
B@B,
I have owned weapons (handguns and rifles) for 36 + years. I obtained these weapons during and after my service in the U.S Army and I did have children in my home when these weapons were in the house? You claim that:
"Any gun that is at the ready to be used if someone breaks into your house is by definition not safely stored. You are far more likely to end up shooting a member of your family than you are an intruder."
If your statement was even close to being accurate we would be hearing of Police Officers wives, kids and other family members being killed at home everyday. I can't rememer EVER hearing that happening or being reported.
The only corect thing you said was that was accurate and true was the Police are TRAINED in crisis management. You make the assumption that a citizen, who is not a Police Officer, can't have the same training. WRONG, in many cases a citizen can and does have the same weapons training as the Police. Additionally, some citizens are BETTER trained than our Police. You clearly need to educate your self about this issue.
Liberty
10:57 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Not too worried about the Russians. No one is after us, are you kidding?! Tell that to all the people who died on 9/11! If you repealed the 2nd Amend., all guns would be illegal, there would be utter chaos and the police and ATF would be spending 24 hrs a day looking for them. Your last two sentences are non-sequiturs.
William Mays
11:21 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Yeah but a gun wouldn't have helped on 9/11. I think the 2nd amendment is fine, but assault rifles should be banned.
Liberty
11:40 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I think a 6 yr old would know a gun wouldn't have helped on 9/11. My point was there is a whole world of America-haters out there who may think twice about invading us because of all the legally owned guns held by our citizens. The ubiquitous "they" say if someone wants to break into your house, they will find a way, no matter what safeguards you have. Do you really think if assault rifles had been banned, or handguns were illegal, that the VA Tech killer and others of his ilk, wouldn't have found a way, easily, to get those guns?
Liberty
11:49 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
You can't kill a whole bunch of people with alcohol?! A drunk driver hitting or running a schoolbus off the road sure can! That drunk woman driving the wrong way on the Taconic last year killed 8 people--does that qualify as a bunch?! I'm with that other guy, I'm more afraid of drunk drivers than anyone with a gun!
William Mays
11:56 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I meant intentionally kill people. People intentionally kill people with guns. And yeah, I think that it would have been hard for them to obtain guns.
Liberty
12:15 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
You keep qualifying your statements.
I think we're done, we have different opinions and neither is going to change the other's. And I think illegal guns are as easy to get as illegal drugs--just ask any cop, I did.
William Mays
12:17 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
You know, in Europe, guns are much harder to come by, their murder rates are much lower than ours.
Nose Wayne
8:40 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Guns don't kill people. Stupid,off my meds,spiteful,revengeful,paybacking, mental history people kill people. Read the stats !!!!
William Mays
11:43 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
And they are allowed to obtain guns.
Dan Grant
8:44 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Gun killings aren't just much lower, they are hundreds of times lower. Every gun used in a crime started as a legal gun sale. You have hundreds of Gun Stores in Az where laws are very lax and at gun shows where laws are non-existant that flow into Mexico every day. You can buy all the amunition over the internet without anyone laying eyes on you. It is a terrible situation for an Civil Society and someday we might become one.
Liberty
2:43 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Dan--I have no idea what you just said. Are you for or against the 2nd amendment? And what is a "Civil Society?"
And Billy, those off-their-meds, mental people would obtain those guns, legal or not, anyway they could, because they are determined to commit the act.
Kevin Nedd
3:31 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
RCP's no toss up state projection is a snapshot of what is most likely to happen if the election were held today. Another good source of where things now stand can be found on NYT 538:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/aug-31-tv-ratings-may-be-leading-indicator-of-convention-bounce/#more-33960
This source provides some good analysis behind the numbers.
The Stig
4:09 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Oh so wrong. It's what would happen if the elections were held the day of the polling (in some cases the polls are now weeks old, and in any event, the election is in NOVEMBER), the electorate in each state as a whole voted precisely as a handful of the people polled indicated they would vote, and the pollster got the demographics of the electorate precisely right (e.g., didn't overweight Dems, minorities, young voters, etc.).
That's a lot of "Ifs," and it's why pollsters have this thing called the Margin of Error! When that's taken into account, Obama can safely say that right now he is well short of the electoral votes needed to be sworn back in next January.
As for the "538" page on the Liberal NYT's website, Mr. Silver has to fill a lot of column inches so he gives us ample amounts of his Liberal POV on the polling. After the election, much like many of the Liberal prognosticators, he'll be telling us how he and all the pollsters never quite saw the Romney victory coming until it was too late.
P.S. I love how any polling that shows Romney in the lead means that it's a Republican leaning poll. Bias, not a chance!
Kevin Nedd
5:09 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Here is an interesting point of view that incorporates the two sources we have been discussing:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-the-race-is-not-tied/
Liberty
3:59 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Are there a lot of hookers in the Lincoln Tunnel, KMN? I guess you would know from personal experience?
Kevin Nedd
4:16 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
No personal experience here, but having once worked on 34th and 10th Ave., it was kinda hard not to notice them patrolling the streets iso truckers looking for a quickie.
James Bombace
7:08 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Academics predict economy will drive a HUGE Romney victory
Using a state-by-state analysis of unemployment and per-capita income, academics Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry of the University of Colorado project that Romney will win 52.9% of the popular vote and 320 electoral votes. The political scientists discuss their findings here.
Their forecast suggests that President Obama will lose in almost all of the swing states, including North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.
But Bickers said much of the polling thus far means relatively little, with much of the electorate still not focused on the race. The academics said their model focuses on the preeminent issue of the economy. Applied retrospectively, the model predicts the correct winner in every presidential contest going back to 1980, they said.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-academics-predict-economy-will-drive-a-romney-victory-20120822,0,2662095.story
Kevin Nedd
10:44 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
James,
Of course the model, applied "retroactively" picked the winners since 1980. Yeah right! How does the model factor in the weakness and ineptitude of the Romney/Ryan ticket.
I mean really, Mitt builds his whole campaign around how a president must have "business experience". Yes....ladies and gentlemen, it's a must have in order to understand how the economy works. And just to prove how critical it is for a president not have business experience, Romney picked a 42 year old career politician, with no business experience, as his running mate. You can't make this stuff up!
Mitt Romney, for it....before he was against it!
Kevin Nedd
7:48 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Another example of Mitt being for something, before he was against it!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-federal-bailout-that-saved-mitt-romney-20120829?link=mostpopular2&page=2#
Kevin Nedd
10:35 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Oh...and before I hear how Rolling Stone Mag is a left wing liberal rag, the story has enough legs to be covered by The Economist:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/08/mitt-romney-and-bain-company
Alan Sanders
11:41 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
I think that the U.S. Defense budget is more than the sum of all the defense budgets of all the other nations in the world. Justifying owning guns to protect against invasion by another country is ridiculous. There are a number of states where owning guns are deep parts of the culture. Their stats on guns saving people, saving police, deterring home invasions should give a good read on whether owning guns has those benefits - I do wonder, and I do doubt it. Guns alone don't kill people, but wacky people with guns do. And, whether drunk or careless drivers are more of a menace than killers with guns, is irrelevant. The question is whether guns are more of a menace than a salvation. Nevertheless, face it, people love to shoot for fun, we're wired to love hitting a target with a gun or a basketball. Most people who want to be able to own guns, want to have their fun. These are my unresearched personal opinions.
V. Scheurich
5:16 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
What America is going to get when and if The President gets another 4 years.
E-mail him and ask him if it is true because it is. You will not get an answer to your question. This has all been fact checked and is true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wIfI2whjiM
Crafty Spiker
6:58 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
As a comment on youtube noted - we have a president, not a king. The real silliness starts and pretty much ends with the Congress. Fact check that.
Kevin Nedd
7:39 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
The fact that you used Dick Morris as your source speaks volumes with respect to the lack of credibility of your point. The man is a hypocritical idiot. See below:
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/08/weekinreview/dick-morris-s-behavior-and-why-it-s-tolerated.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
The Stig
8:24 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Wow, a NYT's story from 1996. Great rebuttal. The better question is why the guy the Dems really adore, WJC, kept using him, or why NOW wouldn't denounce him. They're the real hypocrites.
Kevin Nedd
9:07 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Does the fact the story was written in 1996, make the facts any different. Time does not make the facts or events change.
Where is there evidence Clinton continuing to use Morris after he resigned as an advisor in 1996? As for why he hasn't denounced him, while that's a question for Clinton to answer, it probably has to do with not needing to kick a dog while he is down.
As for hypocritical behavior, Morris' action since leaving the Clintons fit the bill. No pun intended.
The Stig
11:25 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I didn't say WJC should denounce him. Reread my comment and the article. And if he had considered it, he probably thought of all the scanks he was "doing" and thought, there but by the grace of God . . .
Lest we forget one of the most famous lines of our lifetime, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . . " What a wonderful guy to stand up and vouch for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs
Kevin Nedd
11:40 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Sorry, I misread your use of the term "NOW" as an emphasis on the present, as opposed to the National Organization of Women.
As for your remarks on Clinton, again 60+% of American seem to have moved on. But then again, I can understand why marital infidelity might be a subject that's a little to close to home for you.
The Stig
1:03 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I think you've confused me with some of the losers you know in LV.
As for Clinton, he's proven he'll say or do anything, including lie with impunity, to sway public opinion.
It's also sad that a sitting President has to haul a retread out of semi-retirement to bolster his re-election chances. I guess he's determined that the people won't vote for him based on his weak record, so why not run on the "Renaissance" Years of the Clinton Presidency.
As the memory of the recent convention fades, and all America is left with is the reality of a weak economy that Obama's policies have failed to revive, his ratings will sink and he can start to call around to see who's available to move his stuff out of the WH this coming January.
James Bombace
5:16 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
In 1980, Reagan looked unelectable. All the way to election day, when a final-week surge led to a 10-point landslide.
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/vault/Harris-Interactive-Poll-Research-CARTER-NOW-FAR-AHEAD-OF-BOTH-REAGAN-AND-BUSH-1980-01.pdf
Gallup polling today put Obama ahead of Mitt Romney by 4 points after the godless DNC Convention.
Back in 1980 Gallup had Jimmy Carter up over Ronald Reagan by 4 points in mid to late September… And, Carter was up 8 points in October. In fact there was a published Gallup poll showing Carter up six among likely voters in a poll conducted Oct. 24 to 27.
Ronald Reagan ended up winning by 9 points and taking 44 states.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...september-1980
With Independent voters supporting Romney in large numbers Romney will repeat the Reagan Landslide and may even win by more than 10 points.
Kevin Nedd
5:24 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
James,
The difference for Reagan is he led Carter by some 30 points after the GOP convention. Romney has never led the President. I would suggest you read Nate Silver's blog for more insight. The link is listed in a posting below this one.
James Bombace
6:40 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
KMN,
I suggest you might educate yourself also by reading at the website below....
http://www.breitbart.com/
Kevin Nedd
5:16 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
As the convention fades...Mitt Romney is faced with the reality of an incumbant President pulling away in Gallup and Rasmussen approval ratings, head to head polling, and Nate Silver's 538 blog model projections.
Mitt had his chance and couldn't close the sale. Unlike Mitt, the President is enjoying a sizable bump.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/sept-8-conventions-may-put-obama-in-front-runners-position/
Unlike Mitt, the data does not lie.
James Bombace
6:50 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
KMN
Unlike Obama and Mitt, the data does not lie.....there I fixed that for you.
No need to thank me.
jp1
7:34 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I believe that there is a strong possibility that none of the above will win.
Kevin Nedd
8:40 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Seems the Romney camp is finally conceding a point I have been making for months:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html
Kevin Nedd
2:09 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Even the neocons over at the WSJ are waking up to the fact Mitt's EC chances are dim:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443921504577641694168291460.html?mod=WSJ__MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth
The Stig
2:44 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
The WSJ editorial page is Conservative, the reporting side of the house is not.
As for the polls, there are now more states in play than ever. Obama is weak and there's still two months to go till election day. As much as you try to make an Obama victory look inevitable, it is far from over. Aloha Mr. Hand.
Kevin Nedd
3:14 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
It's over. You're just one of the last ones to admit it.
B@B
8:29 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
The Mitt-o-matons should take heart. If Obama gets an EC win without a popular vote win, they can spend the next four years screeching about he's not a legitimate president because he didn't win a majority of the popular vote...and in true conservative fashion, they can conveniently forget that their hero George W. Bush was in very much the same situation, only he needed the Supreme Court to get his EC win for him.
Kevin Nedd
3:47 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Another poor sign for Mitt:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/romney-raises-111-6-million-in-august/
Paul Corrigan from West Orange
8:55 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
I will welcome the defeat of Obama this November. Promoting class warfare is no way to unite a country.
jp1
8:57 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Data may not lie but it certainly can be twisted to your own advantage.
stewart resmer
4:07 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012
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